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Sunday, 6 December 2015

When Someone is Killed What is Karmic Consequence.

When someone is killed - an innocent, whether in war or a civilian who is unarmed, it is justified to ask, why did this happen - to even look to the heavens and ask God...many people do.

We do not see the bigger picture of what is happening in our world. If we cannot see beyond our own understanding, then we are not going to be able to comprehend the bigger picture.

If someone is walking around with a knife and with an inclination to do crime, drugs, deals and to protect themselves in this way of life, they are showing that they fear...they might carry a weapon to threaten or to defend their own self. We do not know unless the individual communicates their truth.

Someone living this way of life, carrying a weapon in a society that is generally and mosly unarmed, can pose a threat to soceity..but the bigger threat are the police who are armed, and innocent people being prosecuted and injured because this brings out fear in people, and hatred that can be turned on innocent people. Acts of desperation are done....perhaps a book could be written to analyse this..not that I plan to.

But say for example someone who has done something - ie, drug dealing and even caused death and deep pain to someone who has not got any restraint or personal ability to rationalise what happened, that they decide to take up a physical weapon and go out in vengeance, would this be justified?

We really do not know what has happened in anyone's life who goes out and kills innocent people but sometimes, those who are killed are not so innocent either. This we cannot ignore.

We do not know under what power a killer is operating.

We do not know if someone is being paid to kill either..

There are hired assassins in our world today...

There are trained hitmen - this is reported even in the news.

So what is the difference between someone who is seemingly a yob with a weapon who kills someone, to a hired assassin who has a target to kill and takes payment for it. Who calculates to commit murder.

If someone kills someone without planning to, is that murder?

If a police officer fires a tasar several times and people are killed - is this not murder? Forget the uniform at the moment - solders wear uniforms and are trained to kill too. They serve the monarch.

Murder: the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another.

Manslaughter: the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or in circumstances not amounting to murder.

Are police being trained to kill people?

Is someone who might have had their life threatened, trained to kill anyone? Or are they acting out of fear and self defence? The problem with media reports, we do not always have the full story to decide this?

Because of this subject I want to quote scriptures:

"If anyone is to go into captivity, into captivity they will go. If anyone is to be killed with the sword, with the sword they will be killed." This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God's people.' Revelation 13:10

Leviticus 24:20
fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth. The one who has inflicted the injury must suffer the same injury. 


But we might assume that it is the system who must carry out this, when actually life can present situations that carry out what is known as karmic consequence. 

When innocent people are killed - the killer is accumulating karma that must one day return. We do not know how it will return but we know it will be ...It is not for us to decide, or to kill anyone.

Deuteronomy 19:21
Show no pity: life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.

I read this and while it can be interpreted that whoever is in authority can inflict this, I can also see the spiritual perspective that cicumstances might cause injury and take life,.The cause of this is unknown but when and if this happens, if we show pity we have not considered this happened for a reason and the reason might be something that is not pitiful at all...

As it happens, when my mother became paralysed, I struggled with this, later being told there was witchcraft involved in my heart I was devastated at even the suggestion but I was wide awake and alert then and there were indications that something was not right at all at the time...A lady who became paralysed from the neck downwards - if this was witchcraft to do this, it will return too.

Having seen karmic consequence in my own family, I can recognise this and sometimes it takes years to manifest in the way that we do not expect...But we recognise when this is taking place. 

The people killing in rituals for power? They will also lose their life

“You shall not permit a sorceress to live. Exodus 22:18

God forbid killing people and so we must also look for the scripture that will reveal His Truth so that we can understand what can be done in the discovery of such acts..

Fearing God Alone
27"What I tell you in the darkness, speak in the light; and what you hear whispered in your ear, proclaim upon the housetops. 28"Do not fear those who kill the body but are unable to kill the soul; but rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29"Are not two sparrows sold for a cent? And yet not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father.… Matthew 10:28

I do not believe vengeance is the answer, but we are living in a time where there is spiritual darkness prevailing and the godless ruling over the godless does not make for a holy empire.

If we begin to look to the far higher authority and seek the truth of what is written, always bearing in mind that God has forbidden us to kill anyone...If death is what will come, the one who kills the body might not be killing the soul. The soul will go on...except where God destroys both.

A couple of years ago I knocked on the door of a house, after seeing 'Be Strong' with a lions face on a car and asking about this, was to learn first hand someone;s experience who went the wrong path in life. As a young man he was rejected abandoned and hurt. Growing up taking up a life of crime was easy, and even easier picking up a machete he said, and being physically violent to his wife too.

What turned this man around - faith...

One time he was arrested and yet before this he had discovered an open door of a church. He was allured out of curiosity and welcomes with love by these people. He never felt this before. He wanted to return again and again. On the day he was arrested, he said he would be late for church. The police did not believe him and if I recall he was dropped off there...(He is an instrument for the Lord now)

That day the police involved in this incident would have had their pre-conceptions altered. A man who has been in so much trouble before is now wanting to break out of jail to go to Church. 

Since this time I have spoken to his wife - wit messages of love on her wall, this is a family who are united with the same focus now...The boy who was hurting and went astray did not just turn his life around, he set out to help other young men who have gone down the destructive path in life - he is involved in helping people be rehabilitated into society after a sentence in jail...

I never asked if he killed....But God saved his soul.

Never judge anyone because we do not know what they have done. The acts people do, might be acting out what is happening internally. Police can learn from people...Police are people.

“You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not murder; and whoever murders will be liable to judgment.’ Matthew 5:21

Keep far from a false charge, and do not kill the innocent and righteous, for I will not acquit the wicked. Exodus 23:7

If I say to the wicked, O wicked one, you shall surely die, and you do not speak to warn the wicked to turn from his way, that wicked person shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand. Eziekiel 33:8

In Joshua 20 it is written

Cities of Refuge

20 Then the Lord said to Joshua: Tell the Israelites to designate the cities of refuge, as I instructed you through Moses, so that anyone who kills a person accidentally and unintentionally may flee there and find protection from the avenger of blood. When they flee to one of these cities, they are to stand in the entrance of the city gate and state their case before the elders of that city. Then the elders are to admit the fugitive into their city and provide a place to live among them. If the avenger of blood comes in pursuit, the elders must not surrender the fugitive, because the fugitive killed their neighbor unintentionally and without malice aforethought. They are to stay in that city until they have stood trial before the assembly and until the death of the high priest who is serving at that time. Then they may go back to their own home in the town from which they fled.”

There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you--who are you to judge your neighbor? James 14:2


God Presides in the Great Assembly
7"Nevertheless you will die like men And fall like any one of the princes." 8Arise, O God, judge the earth! For it is You who possesses all the nations. Psalm 82:8

The Father and the Son
21"For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son also gives life to whom He wishes. 22"For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, 23so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him.… John 5:21-23


This is what is written...We do not know God's plan.

But those who die in the Lord will live;
    their bodies will rise again!
Those who sleep in the earth
    will rise up and sing for joy!
For your life-giving light will fall like dew
    on your people in the place of the dead! Isaiah 26:19


We do not know the innocent or guilty but sometimes the innocent are instrumental in proving the guilty. As Jesus was an innocent man condemned to death, those who condemned did not abide by the Commandment of God. You see, the law is written yet the Commandments are written in stone, as the Ten Commandments. The law not to Kill is unchangeable. 

We must trust that God will put wrongs right...

And Out of Order, will become and ordered world again.

The Order of God will not be denied by those who mock him.

Peace be with you
Pauline Maria

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