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Monday, 4 January 2016

Gay marriage bill may lead to 'lesbian queen and artificially inseminated heir'

Again I am quoting in context because officials have spoken out:

The Guardian headline reads exactly as it is printed above

Gay marriage bill may lead to 'lesbian queen and artificially inseminated heir'

Former Tory chairman Lord Tebbit also warns that legislation could allow him to marry his son to escape inheritance tax

The determination of David Cameron to press ahead with legalising gay marriage opens up the possibility of a lesbian queen giving birth to a future monarch by artificial insemination, Lord Tebbit has warned.
In one of his more outspoken interventions, the former Conservative party chairman told the Big Issue magazine that the legislation could also allow him to marry his son to escape inheritance tax.
Tebbit's remarks indicate that the marriage (same sex couples) bill will have a bumpy ride when it reaches the House of Lords.
Tebbit, who said that ministers have "fucked up" by alienating Tory grassroots, accused Downing Street of forcing through the legislation with little thought.
"The government discussed it for 20 minutes on the morning of its announcement," he told the Big Issue. "They'd done no work on it beforehand."
Tebbit also said he had challenged a minister about legalising gay marriage at the same time as ending male primogeniture in the royal succession.
"I said to a minister I know: have you thought this through? Because you're doing the law of succession, too.
"When we have a queen who is a lesbian and she marries another lady and then decides she would like to have a child and someone donates sperm and she gives birth to a child, is that child heir to the throne?"
Tebbit joked that the change could allow parents to marry their children as a way of avoiding inheritance tax. "It's like one of my colleagues said: we've got to make these same sex marriages available to all. It would lift my worries about inheritance tax because maybe I'd be allowed to marry my son. Why not? Why shouldn't a mother marry her daughter? Why shouldn't two elderly sisters living together marry each other?"
Lord Tebbit, who recently said he could understand why many people vote Ukip, said the party would attract greater financial support if they won the European parliamentary elections next year. He said: "If they make significant gains in the European elections, I know there's people rich enough to get involved and fund a significant campaign at a general election."
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2013/may/21/tebbit-gay-marriage-lesbian-queen
The Telegraph were more specific in the detail
'Peers have considered amendments to the law which would make clear that only Royal children born in “a marriage between a man and a woman” could be considered valid heirs to the throne.
Under the 18th Century laws governing the succession, only an “heir to the body” can succeed. That phrase was intended to mean direct biological descendents of the monarch.
Some experts now argue that advances in artificial insemination mean that the term needs to be redefined.
Lord True, a Conservative peer, proposed changes to the Bill that would explicitly define an heir to the body as the product of a heterosexual marriage.
His amendments would also remove from the line of succession any child that was not the offspring of “both parties to that marriage”, excluding children conceived using sperm or eggs from a donor or surrogate.
Lord True was supported by Lord Elton, a former Conservative minister whose wife is aide to the Queen.
Lord True told the Daily Telegraph he was not opposed to gay marriage, but believes that Royal laws should be updated to take account of it.
He said: “What happens if we have a lesbian queen in a same-sex marriage who conceives using an egg implanted with donor sperm? The law should be clear, but this is a question that has not been thought through in the Bill.”
Lord Wallace of Tankerness, a Government law officer, told the Lords that after "much thought" that ministers had decided no change to the Bill is required.
Existing laws already ensure that only a Royal child born to heterosexual parents can succeed, he said.
“The laws governing the succession require that the heir must be the natural-born child of a husband and wife,” he said. “We do not believe that there is a need for this amendment.”
In response, Lord True agreed to withdraw his amendment, but said he remained “troubled” by the questions raised by same-sex marriage laws.
If same-sex marriage becomes widespread, the current common law position on the succession could well be challenged in future, he told Lord Wallace.
“My concern is that as the law arises in the future, that understanding may be challenged,” he said.
“As same sex marriage becomes part of the settled life of our kingdom, as the Prime Minister intends, the law [on successions] will inevitably evolve.”
Despite withdrawing his amendment, Lord True said the questions it raised will have to be answered one day.
“This may seem fanciful or long in the future, but I believe Parliament should reflect on it,” he said. “I believe the question will inevitably arise.
Suggesting that this law could be raised again in the future, is not really something new. As Diana exposed homosexuality in the royal household - she knew oh so much more too. It is not known if William is conceived naturally and a child of Charles..
With all the talk of human clones too..God Knows.
But there is surely a lot amiss with all this..
What can we do....nothing at all...As a Jewish rabbi said to me, with what is happening in our world now, it is time for us to claim back our God given birthright....This is what we are called to do.
The Word of the Father, Lord God Almighty has been spoken by Christ and this is why the scripture is clearly written so that all may know that God the Father is not a Father of Lies..
...Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6
Peace be with you
Pauline Maria


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